A collective of information and experiences with the cosmetics company Lime Crime and its founder, Doe Deere/Xenia Vorotova


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Doing some quick cross referencing for the ask about FIT, I found this post from Xenia in which she is responding to a fan letter asking her for advice on how to become a makeup artist when her father would prefer her to go to college and follow a more traditional career path. All looked fine until I got down to Xenia’s response:

Dear Kaitlen,

From your last name, I’m assuming that you are Asian. Unfortunately, Asian parents – especially fathers – can sometimes be authoritative and overbearing. They have a set vision of how they want their kids to turn out and often leave no room for exploration and experimenting. It’s saddening, and makes me appreciate my liberal upbringing all the more.

It’s disappointing to yet again see that her views toward Asian and Asian-Americans seem to solely be influenced by heavy-handed stereotypes. Making this even worse is the fact that it’s long been speculated that Xenia wrote these letters herself, so on top of presenting her stereotypical views, she also took the time to write a vignette that supports her notion of the strict Asian parent and that Asian men are inherently overbearing. Looking at the China Doll campaign now, all I can say is old habits die hard.

I just seen this blog and I LOVE lime crime. I dont know the whole negative side? Can someone fill me in?
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

It’s kind of a hard thing to summarize because there have been so many incidents, but some quick points as to why people take issue with Lime Crime:

  • People have found hairs and other non-identifiable debris in their products
  • Lime Crime steals images from artists and bloggers to promote their images despite being called out on it/sent letters of cease and desist
  • Their China Doll palette appropriated Chinese culture and portrayed a heavily stereotyped image of Chinese women - it offended many people and they refused to apologize for it. Xenia also thinks cultural appropriation is in her words “kinda brilliant”. Xenia was given many opportunities to speak directly with people who were willing to educate her on why the campaign was offensive and why cultural appropriation is offensive and she blew them off.
  • Lime Crime has actively and continuously censored any critical or questioning comments about their products, to the point they threatened to sue a blogger for posting her opinion.
  • Lime Crime knowingly repackaged TKB micas and refused to own up to it, despite the mountain of evidence showing the allegations to be true.

This is just a small piece of what Xenia and Lime Crime have done to customers, former friends, colleagues etc. If you want to know the other side of Lime Crime, my post on the history of Lime Crime and Doe Deere goes more in depth.

Another year is here and Lime Crime has yet again re-invented their past history with a new page full of unverifiable claims and straight up lies about not being able to find bright cosmetics when she had plenty of options back in 2005. It’s also worth noting that they’ve also fudged that their donation was more or less raised by people who purchased Lime Crime, not by the owners themselves, but hey when the last time your business did anything suggesting a minor commitment to animal welfare was in 2010 you have to do what you have to do! 

Doing further investigation back into the Bidawee donation, I stumbled upon the comments in the original post that are undeniable evidence that Lime Crime was calling their products vegan when they still contained beeswax and carmine. Similarly, as with nearly all Lime Crime charitable events, no specific information is given about what percentage of sales were given and people who asked for specifics weren’t answered or corrected if they believed the entirety of the profits from March 2010 were going to be donated. 

Also that PETA certification they claim to have - it’s just a certificate of appreciation sent to them

This is what I wrote on Xenia’s twitter on the day she was gonna be on that show. Interesting comment that she gave back to me and then not too much later she deleted this convo off of instagram…

It’s so telling she only uses sassy comebacks until she’s confronted with facts and then everything gets deleted. What again are we supposedly jealous of? 

Lime Crime Makeup SCAM has crossed the line with their new scam lying ot their affiliates and this time it’s over for good! Let the world know that Lime Crime Makeup Affiliate Program is a Scam, caught red handed! 

click here 

Asker Anonymous Asks:
Your such a huge loser running these blogs about Doe and Vivi, we finally know who you are though!!!
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

While I’m glad you think my writing style is similar to someone who has much better grammar and syntax than I do, I only have time to run this one blog. 

Asker weaveasecret Asks:
So if all the things you are saying on here are true, how has she been seen so positively by people in the industry? If her business was really as scandalous as you say it is, she would have been reported a long time ago and had a formal investigation into her business. People don't just get away with these kinds of things, so this makes me question your resources. I also find it hard to believe that you have followed her since her launch, if its all from google its a pretty unreliable source.
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

People have supported her and then dropped her immediately once they realized what she’s done. Many YouTube makeup artists, bloggers, and people who own their own lines like Poppy King have gone from supporting her to dissociating completely. There are multiple blog posts out there showing that the original eye dusts were identical to TKB and people did try to report her to the FDA and Better Businesses Bureau. Repackaging isn’t a crime in the United States, so besides having her PayPal account suspended for fraudulent advertising there wasn’t going to be much more legal action besides that. I’ve been aware of Xenia since around 2004 so I’m familiar with her patterns of behavior and how certain scams have come around over and over again. I’ve posted the most pertinent information here, but if you’re expecting police reports or peer-reviewed articles on Lime Crime that type of information isn’t available. There are however plenty of reviews, blog posts, and vlogs about her products.

Asker Anonymous Asks:
Cosmetics expert or not, anybody can tell that it's not okay to use other people's art and not even give them credit. Usually when people are told, they'll apologize and add credit or take down the art as necessary. The fact that Doe thinks what she's doing is okay is pretty sad.
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

Everything’s a free for all on the internet in their opinion, unless someone says something they don’t like.

Asker weaveasecret Asks:
You do realise that every single company uses each others products to make their own right? The whole business is about copying each other and marketing it as different from the rest. Just because you have some kind of dislike for Doe Deere doesn't mean she's the only one that does this, and if you worked in cosmetics then maybe you'd realise that, and realise this whole blog is just pointless. Anyone reading this who works in cosmetics is probably just laughing at it.
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

Repackaging basic cosmetic ingredients isn’t normal practice for most cosmetic companies. There’s quite a big difference also between putting out something similar and copying formulas, packaging, and copy. Similarly, I don’t need to work in cosmetics to have the basic understandings marketing, chemistry, and what constitutes plagiarism. I’ve gotten plenty of feedback from people in the industry as well and they seem to like what I’m doing. If you don’t see this blog as serving a purpose to your personal interests then I’d suggest not reading it.

Asker Anonymous Asks:
Just noticed that the glitters have been moved to the eyes section and the disclaimer has been removed. I wonder why.
doedeerelies doedeerelies Said:

They weren’t promoted very well as products for the face or nails so I’m guessing this switch is to boost sales.